Tuesday, April 11, 2006

Si Se Pueda!

It's bigger than the Civil Rights movement, kids. Congress people would be foolish to vote against immigration rights simply for the votes. But is it wise to open the floodgates into our country? The Minutemen say it's bad for our economy, but, well, they would be wrong. Our economy depends on immigrants, believe it or not. What about terrrorism? What about poverty, or the strain on our educational and healthcare system? But then what about the tired, poor, huddled masses we've asked for before, at the dawn of this country? Who has more rights to be here than another? Because my ancestors came across the Mayflower does that make me more entitled than someone who just got here? Am I allowed to keep the land all to myself? I don't think so. The fact is our ancestors were all immigrants at one time or another, unless you're a native american indian. And there aren't a whole lot of people that can make that claim these days. This reminds me of a story my mom tells me about growing up in Emigration Canyon. It was like this. Someone would build a house in the canyon and move in, then another few people would do the same thing and the person already there would be upset because they felt like there were too many people and they were ruining the canyon atmosphere, after a while new houses, more new neighborhoods would crop up and the previous people would all express their concern and be upset at the new developments and so on and so forth. Are they right? Too many people could damage the canyon...right? I mean, there's only so many resources there. but who should be allowed to be there, and who should not be? Is that even a valid question?

13 comments:

Scully said...

First of all, America needs to streamline its immigration procedures. Also, it needs to NOT go the European guest-worker route because that has created an unholy mess (see: French riots) and isn't working for them. In the case of illegal aliens, once Reagan gave amnesity, it can't be taken off the table. So the 11-12 million who are here aren't going anywhere. Finally all this talk about taking jobs is laughable since most illegal aliens, due to their illegal status, take jobs that no citizen would deign to consider. How many citizens are clamoring for janitorial work? Illegal immigration is a problem, but it is also an issue the conservatives know get people riled up and leave most liberals in a tight spot. Don't forget it is an election year and everyone is gearing up for the even bigger election in 2008.

SJ said...

Hmmm, actually I started thinking about my comment on Native American Indians and started thinking if anyone had a claim on the land Hispanics do. They've been on this continent a lot longer. Screw those imaginary borderlines!

Sherpa said...

I agree with Scully. We have to streamline procedures. We CANT go the European route. Our immigrants have to be given the clear route to citizenship. We can't create a second class society. Look what's going on in Europe.

Getting home on Monday was nuts, because of the protests on the mall. Good on them, I say.

Esperanza said...

My only real opinion on it is that it has actually quite a heavy toll on education. We have to educate them, illegal or not, and they are flooding into the schools, and not speaking English and the teachers are required by the government tl help them, interpreters and ESL are being paid for out of the limited budgets of school districts ect., so they don't pay taxes to help support education because they are illegal, and the rest of the people are paying for it. I'm not a immigrant hater, and education is one of the reasons that the immigrants come here, but I wish there was some way for more $$ to come to help with it. If we could get them legal so they will pay taxes so that the load is help being pulled for education that would help the school system tremendously!

Scully said...

I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that part of the reason amnesty was given was the tax argument, E. But that doesn't solve the main crux of the problem, which is lowering the number of illegal immigrants. And Congress's plan is just going to make things worse. The immigration question highlights everything that is wrong with our current partisan mentality. Most issues aren't black and white and they don't benefit from being discussed as pro or con. Our governmental system is totally bogged down/corrupted/paralyzed by the way party politics are now the priority over good government. Sorry, stepping down from my soapbox now.

Anonymous said...

"Bigger than the civil rights movement"?

I'll take wild hyperbole for $500, Alex!

Wow.

SJ said...

Dear "anonymous" you have no room to criticize in the first place... you couldn't even admit who you are on here, you just attacked me...I'm not even sure why. I mean you just attacked something I wrote as a clever way into the conversation and totally missed what I was saying.

Also, it's more than some clever way to get into a post, much more. Half a million marching in Washington, half a million in LA, hundreds of thousands coming out in droves all over the nation, all in the name of immigration reform.

But then you go showing off your bad manners instead of saying something constructive or enlightening about this subject. Please educate yourself a little more and stop embarrassing yourself.

Anonymous said...

You want something intelligent?

How about this - the mobilization that the immigrant community showed was amazing. Will it become something akin to the civil rights movement? Maybe - but a couple of days of marches does not "bigger than the civil rights movement" make.

I'll grant it was a semi-"clever" way into a blog entry - but to defend yourself so vehemently shows me that I struck a bit of a nerve.

And why am I anonymous? Because I know you and I don't like you. LOL.

SJ said...

Really, if you do know me you'll know that you don't have to fight with me to have an intelligent conversation.

Umm, and there are more marches on schedule. Just wait.

SJ said...

Also, if you don't like me maybe you should talk to me about it instead of being passive aggressive and anonymously writing mean things on my blog.

Anonymous said...

Mean things on your blog?

Oh - did I hurt your feelings pointing out that you went wayyyy too far with your "civil rights" comment?

I love psuedo intellectuals.

SJ said...

Did I turn you down for a date or something? You read my blog, but you don't like me, and then write back with immature comments. I really don't understand your deal.

SJ said...

I don't think you know me. If you did you would instantly like me. I'm actually quite adorable.