Saturday, October 08, 2011

Turns out there are a few demands the 99% actually DO have

If you actually talk to those protesters involved in the Occupy movement you will start to hear a few common threads.
According to the posts both on Good and the official Tumblr blog for Occupy Wallstreet they are:
1. Affordable healthcare. It's time the American people get a healthcare plan that does not favor corporate insurance agencies and big business over the people.
2. More jobs. The Joblessness issue needs to have an end. The people are willing to work. They need jobs.
3. Home stability. Many of the posts dealt with affordable housing and the growing homelessness rate.
4. Affordable education. The second highest loan debt in the nation is education debt. WTF?
5. Credit card debt relief. Banks were bailed, automobile manufacturers were bailed...the people were not bailed. The people are pretty mad about that.
Some argue these people involved are going about it all the wrong way by simply showing up and protesting. They say they need to work within the system to see the change. The problem is the system is a problem.
The system is fed, clothed and changed by a corporate agenda and lobbyists. Lots of lobbyists.
I am glad people are starting to get more active and vocal about it. I have no idea if that is doing anything. But, perhaps, if enough of the people band together and decide not to take it anymore, the change will finally come.


abby said...

The ones out here are against the war which is what they always protest about so nothing new here. Issues 4 and 5 could have been erased with careful planning and limiting consumption. Did they really have to go to the expensive school and live away from home? Did they really need to run up a credit card bill? I bet most of them didn't start running up that bill because that was the only way the could afford food. Honestly, they seemed like entitled brats or at least the ones in DC do. I work directly for the 1% so I'm thankful they are around for giving me my job.

The movement is unfocused without a clear leader. They are not offering solutions to how they can solve their problems. They are frustrated but the energy is not being directed anywhere. Are they waiting for the Second Coming to save them? The somebody they are looking for to fix the system hasn't appeared. Maybe they'd be happy with anarchy. Obama is not a miracle worker but he is not an effective leader either.

I'm too pragmatic to get what the point of this movement is. A bunch of frustrated people on the streets doesn't really mean a lot of me unless they can propose a solution. I'd love better healthcare and affordable housing too but I don't know how to get that one without working with corporations, riding out the free market system, or going over to a true socialist system.

Yes corporations should have been more responsible about giving out credit to people who should not have credit. However, people with bad credit shouldn't have been asking for it. Some of our problems could have solved with people taking more responsibility to live within their means. Something the LDS Church has been preaching for a long time.

SJ said...

Abby, this is great insight. Very rarely do we hear from those actually working with and for the 1%. It is nice to get your perspective on this. I think the real heart of this is people are tired of politicians working for the corporation instead of them. They don't want the bailouts to go to banks instead of them directly. They don't want to spend billions on the war and then have people complain about healthcare. They don't want healthcare that seems to favor insurance biz instead of the needs of the people. There's so much that is messed up they don't know where to begin. They are basically protesting...everything that is happening. Because everything is a mess and it can't be fixed with the current system.

Steve said...


Plain and simple, this is people that do not want corporations, even Apple, running their lives. I've been saying this my whole life, but glad to see we've finally reached the tipping point or enough inspiration from the Tea Party to encourage liberal demands!

Abby - Although I agree there are education and consumption limits that maybe many don't subscribe to that are part of this ilk, I don't understand why education in the US, just like healthcare, tends to be the most expensive in the world, when it is the backbone of any civilization. There is a difference between free and affordable. Sometimes people, especially people in tough times either b/c they are right out of college or still in it, have to use credit as the only source of necessary cash flow, say for fixing an old car (guilty at that age!) or putting down a huge deposit to RENT an apt. People think they will get caught up, but many do not. And like SJ said, the banks who make BILLIONS off the credit card industry got bailed out, but other than death, one can't escape from student loans. And banks just keep jacking up interest rates and fees on credit cards, making even harder for people to catch up. I'm curious what would have happened if all the QEP money went directly to consumer credit card debt, thus giving cash to the banks anyways, but easing the cash flow of individuals for more consumption. I'm not saying irresponsible people deserve freebies, but if irresponsible corporations and investors got bailed out, it seems unfair to a recent grad that has $30k-$100k (co-workers of mine!) and few, if any, job options, in student loans to pay off.

Anonymous said...

You are 100% correct! I support the 99% as I am one of them.